[1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. And let us not forget the new cask finishes of The Tyrconnell. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. But Im leaving this post up as an archive, but I encourage you to read that article first, and if you, As far as Im concerned, springtime is Dark and Stormy season. Look for a new addition to the landscape, The Irishman Original Clan & Single Malt. The old make, which we drank with our luncheon, was delicious, and finer than anything we had hitherto tasted. Maybe not the best role model, but whaddaya gonna do? It wasnt an issue about who owns what. She didnt give a toss about anyones religion, let alone the whiskeys. This must be one of the most pointless debates I have seen in a long time. 1996 in coal harbour Vancouver BC. Hats off to all the others. Jameson was a Dublin Whidkey but it was Protestant. [1] History [ edit] There is only one Catholic church in my town the rest are Baptist or other protestant. Protestant - to 'protest'. Looking for Irish Whiskey to use in a recipe for bread pudding I paid a visit to our local liquor store and inquired as to the best Irish Whiskey available. Jameson Irish Whiskey is produced in Midleton, Ireland, though the original home of the brand is in Dublin. He said he was going to spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the other 10% he was going to waste! Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. But generally, if you like it sweet, you like Jamesons products (including Redbreast, 1780, and Powers) If you like it dry, youll prefer the Busmills lineup. Not buying a certain brand of product because of centuries of English overlordship of Ireland is just so stupid on so many levels. Also how does Navan end up in a Heineken? From the outset of the Reformation, Luther and his associates had fiercely proclaimed the Christian's obligation to "be subject to the governing authorities," asserting, with Saint Paul, that "the powers that be are ordained by God . The fact is that Jameson is the Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is the Protestant whiskey and this is according to people I know That live in Belfast. The other part is that Powers is for everyone else who just doesnt give a f**k. Drink what you drink and like what you like. Understanding the church. All Irish whiskey is great. Catholics and Protestants have a different view on the nature of the church. Im thankful for everyone who, New York City! As Jameson only uses the bourbon barrels once, the color and flavor is more reminiscent of American bourbon. DONT EVER ask an Irish person , north or south if they are catholic or protestant because they will look at you with contempt. Tulley Dew 10 Year Single Malt! I sincerely doubt that there are too many Irish Catholics who care about the religion attached to what they drink. He said, no, Im Catholic, but I was born and raised in the town of Bushmills! I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? so stop bringing religion into alcoholdrink what you like and leave the bigotry at the doorif people spent a few hours getting to know each other over a drink we wouldnt have half the discrimination we have today. Bad Catholic that I am, I always drank Bushmills over Jameson. Its an American argument that doesnt carry weight here, whiskey is whiskey. Good evening All, It is a distinct and beautiful expression of the craft. [2], In 1791 James Power, an innkeeper from Dublin, established a small distillery at his public house at 109 Thomas St., Dublin. This is quite common from what I hear, and yet another argument in opposition of politicizing these two whiskies. Raised going to church every goddamned Sunday. Wow, this was such a fun read through. John Jameson was Pentecostal. For the record I have had many a session all over the island both North and south. As a proud Corkonian, I feel the need to set the record straight. And I obviously know alot about it being from Ireland and the horrific scenes of the troubles. As the rain pummels the ground here in the Pacific Northwest, a little window of blue sky nestled between two dark clouds in the neighboring distance makes me wish I were watching the rain fall from across a dark ocean, my little Caribbean fishing, Update! If you guys can get your hands on Kilbeggan, it will not disappointI only recently discovered it and thought Id share. Gin with a lime is Protestant. Father Urban has succeeded as a business operator on behalf of his monastic . If they do in fact have a Catholic Master Distiller, he is probably just the token worker. Cocktail Kingdom Stainless Steel Julep Strainer, Kuhn Rikon 4-Inch Nonstick Colori Paring Knife, UPDATE: So much has been discovered since this post originally went up, about the dangers of quinine in people with quinine sensitivity. and IRELAND vs SCOTLAND!! Trust me on this. and my green on July 12th. Corvallisbarman is half right. I must have been misinformed. I am also a fan of Tullemore and Black Bush. Id suggest Tullamore Dew, it was founded by Catholics and is still owned by a nice Irish Catholic company. Right. Now, its important to note that the Scottish Reformation occurred in 1560, so odds are in favor of the founder of the Jameson distillery, being Scottish, was a damn Protestant. Powers gold label is absolute shit. While John Jameson was most likely a Protestant, his distillery in Dublin represented the Free State mentality and did not suffer from bigoted hiring practices. I often wonder why those Irish-Americans (usually in Irish bars of Boston or New York)who bring up this absurd and frankly bigoted discussion about Protestant & Catholic whiskey do not apply the same rule when it comes to drinking that most Irish of drinks Guinness. It was the anti-Catholic hiring practices that Bushmills employed in Northern Ireland that fueled the snub. Required fields are marked *. Up here in Canada (BC) its quite difficult to find. This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. Irish whiskeys obtain much of their flavor and color from the coating left inside the barrel from the bourbon aging process. Have heard that Jim Beam (the new owners of the Cooley distillery) may discontinue production on contracted whiskies such as this in order to focus squarely on putting Kilbeggan up against Jameson, Bushmills & Tullamore Dew. Thank you for the real-world experience! The plantation of Ulster started in 1609, and BTW that very same King (James I) planted the Jamestown settlement in Virginia two year previous in 1607. Mostly only Catholics or the nonreligious drink here. The root of this myth lies in the fact that Bushmills is located in the predominately Protestant and still British Northern Ireland. Jeffrey, isnt there an expiration date to such things? . I think Irish whiskey is like Scotch, meant for sipping, not mixing. It has earned a permanent place in my cabinet right next to my Glenrothes 1995 which I prefer over all the other SM brands including MacAllan 18 & 25. Besides, Id have to prove I can fill a job where the company cant find a local. Ferdinand II was a devout Roman Catholic and relatively intolerant when compared to his predecessor, Rudolf II. This is because Guinness is now seen as a world-wide iconic Irish brand and brings in lots of money to the southern Irish economy. But my personal preference is Redbreast, a twelve-year pot still Irish whiskey produced at the Old Midleton Distillery and a real delight to sip while enjoying a late-night Irish breakfast of sausage, egg, pudding and soda bread. Yes, it is definitely misguided, even nuts, but its not a myth. Does anyone know why these bottles were over there ? My hat is off to you, for your spookily informative collection of posts. Now I need to locate Redbreast! And, many thanks to (nearly) all of those who offered comments. Found it very smooth to the tongue. In addition to Powers Gold label, a 12-year-old premium blend, and several single pot still whiskeys have been released under the Powers banner in recent years: In the 2012 edition of the Whisky Bible, whiskey writer Jim Murray named Power's John's Lane Release Irish Whiskey of the Year and described it as "certainly one of the top five world whiskies of the year". Redbreast is wonderful, but spendy. Powers is good and inexpensive but 2 Gingers is better then them all and reasonably priced!!! Dont fall for those expensive effete offerings. The new Tullamore Dew distillery is up and running the past 2 years and back in Tullamore town. I can solve this argument. @Eamonn: always good to hear from a Dubliner. The Protestant Reformation was a religious reform movement that swept through Europe in the 1500s. (Ref. Just a point, Jameson is traditionally a Dublin Whiskey, originally distilled and blended in Bow Street in dublins Smithfield. Nice lark, it is my keeper whiskey (special occasion), while Powers is now my everyday spirit. [3] At the time the distillery had three pot stills, though only one, a 500-gallon still is thought to have been in use. Jamesons for sure. Still enjoy the Black Bush and the Bushmills 16yr. I also like Writers Tears, Bushmills and the Redbreast (12 more so than the 15). Like Jameson, it is blended whiskey, some combination of pure pot-still whiskey with column-still grain whiskey (allegedly 70% pure pot still to 30% grain). Every time you raise a glass of Bushmills you are in essence raising a glass to an Irishman losing his land (and in some cases his life) to British rule!! Those of us that still drink enjoy guinness as our beer And, fact fans, the space-age Middleton distillery in the far south makes the neutral alcohol for the blends produced at Bushmills up North. He said Jameson trucks it up there when Jameson is at capacity, and Bushmills has the resources to do it. Nevermind the fact that it would be illegal in UK law. Some of the comments here are totally rediculous. [16], Last edited on 15 February 2023, at 23:21, "Account of Number of Gallons of Wash distilled in Scotland and Ireland, 1826-27", "Deaths Registered in the District of Killiney", "Main Driver of Recovery of Distillery Industry - Obituary: Frank O'Reilly 1922-2013", "Whiskey Bible Awards for Powers Jameson", Whiskey Distilling: a Part of Dublin's Industrial Heritage (1977), https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Powers_(whiskey)&oldid=1139599779, Powers 12 year old reserve, Powers Three Swallow, Powers Signature Release, Powers John's Lane Release, Powers Irish Rye, Powers 12-year-old Special Reserve, 40% ABV, a blend of 1221-year-old whiskeys with a high pot still content, matured in ex-Bourbon and sherry casks, Powers Three Swallow Release, 43.2%, single pot still, matured mainly in ex-Bourbon casks, with some input of whiskey matured in, Powers Signature Release, 46%, single pot still, matured mainly in ex-Bourbon casks, with some input of whiskey matured in Oloroso Sherry casks, Powers John's Lane Release, 46%, single pot still, 12-year-old, matured mainly in ex-bourbon casks, with some input of whiskey matured in Sherry casks, Powers Irish Rye, 43.2%, triple distilled in a column still, non age statement, matured in a selection of American oak virgin casks and ex-bourbon casks, with the rye sourced from Co. Wexford, This page was last edited on 15 February 2023, at 23:21. Both sides here will gradually realise that they have more in common with each other than they do with folk in ROI or England, thats been my experience. I find it to be a littlethick? First published on March 17, 2016 / 1:00 PM. My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. To comment on a few posts above: I am of Irish descent and remember hearing the Protestant Whiskey comments as a kid growing up in New England(I am 50 now). You wouldnt really understand the depth of the situation. Delicious. , Do note that the greatest tv show of all time, The Wire, always showed the Baltimore cops ordering Jameson in the bars, and the hero, McNulty, becomes indignant when only Bushmills is available at a partys open bar ( I guess most of the cops were Irish Catholic ), so traditions prevailed. My grandfather lost friends due to the awful abuses that were brought upon the Irish in the Republic by the Englishs Black and Tans, rumor has it the original owner of Bushmills was granted the right to distill due to the fact he helped suppress the Irish in the north from uprising against the British. . Spose its kinda like Rangers (hoik-phew) and Celtic FC really. He was anti-Republican and his family was instrumental in organising the Orange Order in Dublin! Funny how these things work out, innit? My mother, an Irish protestant spoke hatred against the Catholics. A Mac computer geek thats too young to retire and too old for male prostitution. As long as its no longer going on in the company today then enjoy. This is an interesting thread and I have a few more now to try. Counter-Reformation, also called Catholic Reformation or Catholic Revival, in the history of Christianity, the Roman Catholic efforts directed in the 16th and early 17th centuries both against the Protestant Reformation and toward internal renewal. To my certain knowledge and as am employee of Bushmills (and a Catholic by birth, but an atheist by choice), you are entirely mistaken. Youd probably get glassed if you asked the question in certain places in Ireland or Scotland. The company has been running since 1780 and has developed and perfected the art of producing the premium quality, top shelf, and smoothest Irish whiskey in the world today. Soon after, in a bold move, Irish Distillers decided to close all of their existing distilleries, and to consolidate production at a new purpose-built facility in Midleton (the New Midleton Distillery) alongside their existing Old Midleton Distillery. The waitress stared at me, and said in her thick brogue, This is an IRISH pub. I looked at her and said, okay, Ill have a Harp. Here in Montana, that conversation wouldnt have made any sense. I always love showing up with a gallon jug of pre-mixed margaritas for the party, so Ive. Also, what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon??? Were not bothered by any of that old bullshit now. About one-in-five (18%) chose "the Great Crusade," while 6% said "the Great Schism" and 5% said "the French Revolution Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. This is coming from a protestant raised irish man from the local area. As far as I know, spirit doesnt really care which way you worship your sky-fairy. Memories. Like seriously you hate us so much you wont drink our whiskey??? I will be at Ninkasis B, Thanks for having me this morning to talk about ou, Last night someone was like oh wow I didnt t, HAHAHAHA Thank you @makersmark and @whisky_in_mai_, Thank you @traveloregon for having us on the start, Over the years, people have come to associate us w, We feel like most of you who have visited our litt, Ive always been one of those people who thought, http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License, Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean). Mind you the order as I see it goes Knappogue 51 > Midleton Rare > Knappogue 15 > Redbreast > Black Bush > Knappogue 92 > Tullamore Dew (makes for the best Irish Coffee) > Then take your pick of the Jamesons/Bushmills/Cooley offerings. Spent a crap of $$$ too so we could compare them all side by side. One of them said, My enemys enemy is my friend.. No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys?. Cake Ive used Irish Whiskey in Old Fashions and Sours before with tasty results. Yes it is a bit heavier than most Irish whiskey, but I appreciate the depth and nuanced flavors. As the Protestants had pretty much a stranglehold over all shipping in the country, they refused to ship Dew in favor of the Protestant-produced Jameson. Funny, I also sought some info from a Bushmills rep when this controversy came up around St. Pattys day! Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy . In a TALL glass.one shot of To this day, even though IDL sold the Bushmills distillery to Diageo a number of years ago, the bottling facility at Bushmills still handles some of the bottling of Jameson, Powers & Paddys. One happens to be located in a majority Protestant area and one located in a majority Catholic area, big deal! Asked the guide about it. I remember back in my younger days hearing of the Troubles and feeling for those involved and I felt mostly for the Catholics. Currently rumored to be building a new distillery, Well, I already put my two cents in well up the thread, but here is some topical good news for the distillery in the North2013 Spirit of the Year: Bushmills http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Having just had this discussion with my buddy who was bribed with a bottle of Bush to express his love of it via twitter (which he refused, good man that he is) I have to say the following-. Entries are still open for the 2023 San Fr, This weekend, we hiked to the site of a natural ca, Valentines Day. Good luck and god bless Hun. Thanks again for this essay and the add-on comments. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. This is mildly off topic, but does anyone else find Jameson to be similar in many ways to Wild Turkey bourbon? The worst mistake I made was ordering a Bass Ale in PJ Horgans on Queens Blvd. In 1998 Bushmills was part of IDL, which owned all the whiskies coming out of Ireland with the excpetion of the few from Cooley. About 5 or 6 years ago they flooeded Irish bars with it just before St. Paddys Day,almost forcing bars to sell off a lot of free stock they received. The date of 1608 doesnt even specifically relate to that brand but that a license was granted in somewhere in that general area. I lived through this and lost people to it, and it saddens me to read this. as the visit was ending up with only 3 tiny plastic glasses half full. As a bartender years ago in Chicago I was told When stocking your liquor on the back of the bar. That was in fact untrue. The word "catholic" means "all-embracing," and the Catholic Church sees itself as the only . Tullamore Dew, rendered in most branding as Tullamore D.E.W. I see. Enough said I thought, and bought the next round. There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. Also absolutely no one gave a rats ass what my religion is & Dublin is currently commemorating the Easter Rising centennial! A bunch of bigoted b######s arguing over the religion of whiskey. Bottom line Bushmills 16 yr has won my top pick in Irish whiskey over the 21 yr and Middletons, Redbreast and all the others. Whisky is Scotch, followed by Canada. The cheap rustic stuff is often the best. Please remember quite a few of you presidents from Grant to Clinton descended from this part of the world. And as you can check from the email address I come from Finland, a protestant country. According to everyone Ive spoken with on the subject, you only really find this debate in the States, where Irish-American support of the Republic can sometimes be blind and often fueled by the very product were speaking of. Check it out: http://whiskiesoftheworld.com. Powers is my number one as the every day Irish whiskey of choice. I was wondering this myself. Hes either the only Irishman who believes this or some in this thread are misinformed. Irish whiskeys like Bushmills, Redbreast, Powers, and Green Spot, amongst others, have arisen on the market with their own distinctive characteristics. Sorry, but I have always loved them both. Porn S, Eugene, Oregon friends! Why not stop purchasing rum to protest Spanish aggression while you are at it. Cheers! Question, in the US, is Powers readily available? I had the 15yr old Kilbeggan during a visit at the Cooley distillery a few years back, and it was damn tasty. Ireland is %110 united in whiskey. 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