By the way my limit shooting that combination is about 15 rounds. Nothing has ever kicked like that gun. In my case it seems like I only get about 5 shots before the pattern starts to open quickly. If so, Iâm sold on this Stoeger P3000 to pick one up soon. Synthetic stocks on some shotguns may have fewer square inches of surface area against your shoulder and can seem to kick harder. That Stoeger rig is where I was about two steps ago, only I would have put a fixed 4 power scope on it. Our readers who live in what politicians and media types deem flyover country — specifically the fields of the Midwest — know a different reality. The gun did not have any cosmetic problems. One of my favorite slug guns was a browning bps deer/turkey special, and the remington 870 slug model with a monte carlo style stock is also a good choice. So, there is a difference in terms of generating recoil. It’s stiff with a bit of grit, but it breaks fairly cleanly around five pounds or so. I called Stoeger and they sent me a label. Got the gun and immediately loved it. stoeger m3500 â the top budget semi-auto shotgun Donât get fooled by the price. It looks like a gun, and for that I must applaud Stoeger. New from Weatherby: SA-08 28 Gauge Deluxe Shotgun, Segmented Shotgun Slug Showdown: Winchester PDX-1 Segmented vs. DDupleks Hexolit 32. Stopping power is not something I think slug hunters worry about much. Case in point: Hornady’s 12 gauge, 300 grain SST slugs exit the barrel at 2,000 feet per second. My 3500 is awesome Never had a issue kills green heads and turkey just fine. Various people (and Hornady) claim that SST sabot slugs will deliver amazing accuracy well out to 200 yards (more than enough to reliably hit a deer’s vital zone). Shooting ergonomics aside, I found the controls to be fairly crisp and the bolt moves very smoothly inside the action. The movement of the action generates a counter-impulse that dramatically reduces felt recoil. It should come as no surprise that shotgun slugs of all varieties are typically devastating to deer. The Ithaca deerslayer is the premier slug gun, and with the right ammo, is a MOA gun. Like my friends, I began by shooting Federal 3 inch Foster-type slugs out of an unmodified 870 bird gun and progressed to the current state of the art: a Savage 220F with a 3×9 Weaver and Remington Accutips. Every time you break down your gun, you’ll lose your zero. As a born-and-bred Texan, I am unfamiliar with places in this fine country devoid of hills, trees, and obstructions. Never once have I scoped myself and the scope is set pretty far back since I’m only 5’8″ and 165. And my cousin put a nice 12 gauge slug through a buck at 70 yards. Anyone want several boxes of unused slug ammo? For reliability at a price you'll love, experts and novices agree on Stoeger. I posted pictures for everybody to see. My thoughts precisely. Be ready to follow up with a finisher. Knowing what I know now, I’d have bought 2. This did not bother me that bad but what i discovered next did! They have great customer service but what does that matter if your guns are complete garbage. It’s not surprising – small and fast rounds tenderize meat at a significant distance from the wound channel because of high velocity induced shockwave, making it weaker; and then they tend to fragment a lot as well. How would a rail extending forward and a Scout scope work? The scope came back and put a deep gash in my forehead and it was gushing blood all over. Pumps aren’t even that bad; in one afternoon I can shoot twenty slugs, a substantial quantity of buckshot, and a fair bit of practice birdshot with absolutely no bruising or discomfort. Needless to say, I removed that extra recoil pad and have never again experienced scope bite to my face. I once hit a 1.5 year old buck in both shoulders with a cheap rifled slug at something like 50 yards. There is a 3% charge on all credit and debit cards.) I took it to the range with a few boxes of magnum sabot slugs, ready to get it all sighted in for the upcoming WI gun deer season. For deer hunting down here in southeast Pennsylvania I use a SBE2 with the factory rifled slug barrel. You're in the wrong forum, but we're well aware of the problems with Stoeger. That said, this is a fairly workable firearm that can be had at a very reasonable price. If I clean the barrel (with brake cleaner if I recall to remove the plastic fouling), the pattern tightens up again. The issue with the M3000R was that shooting this gun was unlike anything else I’ve ever gotten to put my hands on. In terms of terminal ballistics, the difference will not matter out to 200 yards shooting white-tailed deer. Your previous content has been restored. Stoeger M3000 12GA 3\" 24\" Realtree APG 4+1 Semi-Auto Shotgun. Past that, physics catches up with your projectile and it quickly starts to succumb to gravity, negatively affecting accuracy. This is the only gun that has managed to scope-bite me no matter how hard I held its synthetic stock to my shoulder. That thing ran well over 200 yards before keeling over. STOEGER MODEL 3000 and MODEL 3500. Hence the red dot you see in the photos. The Stoeger 3000 shotgun has the look and feel of a more expensive automatic, with the same functionality. Keep in mind that I spend most of my hunting season in a light shirt and occasionally a pair of shorts. I recently had the opportunity to spend several months with Stoeger’s contribution to the field, the M3000 R – Rifled Slug . In other words, take the $2000 you’d spend on an M2 and blow it on ammo. I’m sure a magnified optic (such as Leupold) and a good sabot load could yield better results than I was able to achieve, but your shoulder will hurt getting to that point. They hurt too damn much. For anyone who plans to acquire their first shotgun for deer hunting, I strongly encourage you to forego the 12 gauge and go with 20 gauge. And even shooting only 15 rounds, I will have slight bruising of my shoulder the next day and it WILL be sore. At that point he dropped, spun around on the ground for about 5 seconds, and never moved again. See above re: the scope-bite problem. I found that my groups get larger and larger the more sabot slugs I shoot. I finally discovered the apparent reason: plastic fouling in the barrel from the sabots. I sold that beast shortly after my face healed, and still have that crescent shaped scar. Wow, so now im about to send this gun in again. Otherwise, I am with you on the Mossberg 500 series or Remington 870 series. Since its receiver is drilled and tapped for a Weaver-style rail, many shooters, especially turkey hunters, opt to attach all kinds of accessories and optics. I’ve taken accurate shots out to 100 yards and never lost an animal. This is very much a utility gun and won’t be impressing your hunting buddies around the campfire with its looks. First thing i did was take the gun apart and cleaned it. Rifles generally kill deer much quicker. My research on the topic will have to continue at another date as Stoeger would very much like their semi-auto shotgun back. Having never shot an animal with a 385-grain projectile I was curious more than anything about the terminal ballistics. After 6 shots i noticed the pin on the bolt was destroyed. We do our best to run guns as they come out of the box and out of the box, the M3000 R wouldn’t reliably feed or cycle. As Stoeger didn’t include a front bead, this is definitely a gun designed to use an optic, but doing so effectively isn’t easy. Normally a long gun review wouldn’t take me the better part of six months to complete. I was able to resume beating my shoulder up with reckless abandon. I held the shotgun against my shoulder as tight as I could and took the first shot. It now has a few character marks on it (scratches) from being dropped, leaned against a fence, and dropped in a tank. I took the gun out to clean like usual and i noticed couple of problems. After a couple of runs thru the barrel the inside is spotless and shiny. And bullet drop out to 200 yards is manageable if you set your zero to something like 125 yards. Since I can hunt with a rifle, I wouldn’t go out of my way to pull the M3000 R out of the safe unless I knew I’d be facing a very large, very dangerous animal. This barrel is different, after running the snake thru over 20 times im still left with residue in the barrel that will not come out. Regarding the filthy barrel: this is test fired in the factory and not cleaned. Notice my choice of word “slightly”. I'm sorry that you're dealing with this. Paint them orange and they’d pass for pumpkins. That said, the action is smooth and various levers and switches operate crisply and without fail. I used my gun and it shows it! This gun could probably do it for real. Any ideas how to fix this or parts that I can replace to fix this issue? Gun Review – Remington Model 870 TAC-14 Hardwood, Gun Review: Benelli M2 Tactical ComforTech, Gun Review: Beretta A400 Xplor Unico with Kick-Off. Also the gun has multiple chips and the paint is missing off of 2 of the bolts on top of the receiver where you can mount a scope. Stoeger M3000 Tactical Charging Handle, S... $ 36.00. Technoid: So I got a stoeger m3000 12gauge for Christmas as a hunting gun but I'm not really into hunting anymore and I really like trap and I was wondering what it would take to convert it to an all out trap gun (btw it has a 28" barrel. Nothing new here, itâs the standard for tactical duty shotguns for the last 40 years. Magnum slugs from the Serbu Super Shorty were not pleasant. A few pop up and one of them explains and shows how to do it. Round here (Illinois) we call that Minute of Deer. I have recently moved home and acquired a mossy 500 in 12 ga with fully rifled barrel and went 3 shots for 3 deer in last 2 years. 65 gr. I pride myself on being slightly more prompt than that. sst slugs are the way to go in hunting for whitetails. We had foster type slugs that looked like a minie ball on roids and a round lead musket style ball we called punkin’ balls. One sight-in session took me 35 slugs due to an extremely lousy boresighting job at the gun shop – both my shoulder and wallet were hurting a bit after that one. On that gun, you must pin and shim the barrel to the receiver mount to have any accuracy and it still won’t best the barrel mounted scope. The nice thing about the SBE2 is that the upper receiver is also part of the detachable barrel assembly, so you can mount a scope right the receiver, which is preferable to a cantilever mount. 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